A better title for this post might be: Tom Woods takes Jeffrey Lord to the Woodshed.

Lord and his fellow “conservatives” are little red, socialist, babies who’ve never graduated from the nipple to even the sippy-cup intellectually. They will *never* learn to eat solid food since that would involve time and energy chewing on something substantial. I think the food you offer here is far too substantial and grown-up for them.

Their time to be laughed out of the arena of serious debate has come. Great work, Tom. 

The Jeffrey Lord attack is the best evidence to date that Ron Paul is spectacularly more effective than the neocons ever believed he would be.  Lord, Levin, Medved, and Limbaugh, tenured professors at Neocon Clown University, display quite effectively why they are tools of big government and the anti-Tea-Party.

This is a fight for the soul of conservatism.  The Neocon Clown University version is an intellectually muddled excuse for militaristic big government.  The Ron Paul version recognizes that conservatives should live up to their marketing promises of limited government.  A Ron Paul presidency is almost certainly the last hope for America, and even if Ron Paul is the next president, saving America is a “long row to hoe.”

It’s from December 6 or 7, 2004, before all clips tended to make their way onto YouTube. There may be a transcript.

Tom Woods is an American hero. Thank you, Tom, for dismantling Lord’s ignorance pawned off as intelligence by the neocon outlets.

The neocons are simply in saving-face mode.

Tom, I loved the video, but I have one complaint.  You mentioned Herbert Hoover as an example of a conservative noninterventionist.  But isn’t it true that Hoover was a  life long progressive who was in favor of expanding federal power and was against laissez faire? Didn’t he support Theodore Roosevelt, running on the Progressive Party ticket, for president in 1912? As Commerce Secretary, didn’t he oppose Harding and Mellon, who pursued a fairly laissez faire approach, and wanted the government to intervene during the Depression of 1920? As president, didn’t he increase spending by 50% his first three years in office, raise tariffs and taxes, and coerce business owners into keeping wages artificially high (all of which greatly exasperated the Great Depression? I’m sure you know all of this, but I’m wondering, in what way was he a conservative?  I love your videos and articles, and you obviously know far more about history than I do, but I’m just not seeing eye to eye on this one particular thing.  On a sie note, I know Hoover was involved in a lot of humanitarian efforts during World War I, but what was his position on US intervention? Thank you in advance for your time.

All of that is all too true, as I myself have noted in the past, but by the 1930s and with the progress of the New Deal he became an outspoken opponent of FDR’s administration and I think it would be difficult at that point to lump him in with the progerssive Republicans.

All of that is all too true, as I myself have noted in the past, but by the 1930s and with the progress of the New Deal he became an outspoken opponent of FDR’s administration and I think it would be difficult at that point to lump him in with the progerssive Republicans.

I just got dumped from the Townhall.com website.  I have been sitting here for three days blogging on townhall.com and gopusa.com  trying to get people to go to Ron Paul’s website so they can get to know him from his own speeches and press releases.  Not only do they want to ignore Ron Paul, they want to ignore anyone who supports Ron Paul.  Is there a strategy in place to overcome this terrible media door slamming situation?

Thanks for the response Tom.

Thanks for the response Tom.

Where is this poll.  The ones on the conservative blogs show Ron Paul much further down.

Where is this poll.  The ones on the conservative blogs show Ron Paul much further down.

I just want to see Tom Woods on the air in the big media coverage zones.  It does little good to win the argument if only the faithful few see the other players in the game.

Tom,

Your video here was just mentioned on the Michael Medved show–and handled terribly, I might add.  It was in the third hour of the show, and a caller specifically mentioned this response of yours to Lord.  Medved, who said he had watched the video, claimed that you only addressed minor issues, and never the core argument of Lord’s article: that the founding fathers (contra Ron Paul) did not subscribe to an anti-interventionist foreign policy.  Regrettably, the caller failed to call Medved out for being completely wrong here.  (Of course you rebutted this argument!  You dedicated nearly the first five minutes to that specific charge!)

Medved even went on to specifically cite Washington’s invasion of Canada, as if you had completely skipped over this aspect of the debate (such as it is).  Again, the caller missed this glaring opportunity to defend your position.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/149180/Perry-Zooms-Front-Pack-2012-GOP-Nomination.aspx?utm_source=alert&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=syndication&utm_content=morelink&utm_term=All%20Gallup%20Headlines%20-%20Politics

Everything Tom said is true.

However, even if the Neo-clowns are right about interventionism and the founding fathers, the type of intervention now practiced by the US amounts, at best, to spreading Clintonista socialist democracy to third world countries that desperately need private property and sound money instead.  The entire Keynesian/socialist program undermines private property rights and thus leads to poverty and police states.  The Neo-clowns are basically advocating the spreading of commie style policies and using our troops to do it as they get their legs and jaws shot off.

That may very well make you feel very intellectual, but it won’t help you get the votes from the simple people.  Simple people live simply and think simply and they are in general much happier than anybody on any of these blog sights so, in general, being simple is only a problem when it comes election time and the simple people have to vote to save the lives of their families.  Then they are listening to sound bites and talking to their neighbors (who are as simple as they are) and the night before election day, they take a few minutes and decide who to vote for.

By that time, if we have failed to make Ron Paul seem like Paul Revere in the flesh, a national hero for having stood faithfully for 35 years saying, “NO” to the unwinnable, unjust and undeclared wars that cost us the lives of our men and boys, with the trillions of dollars of debt and saying no to all the big government grabbing of personal property, and big government spending on social welfare spending that brought our nation to the brink of bankruptcy.

Ron Paul wants to get our men and boys back home where they belong, wants to get rid of the intrusive executive orders that have stolen our property rights and our freedom of religion! 

Quite frankly folks, you have the right message, you are just making it too complicated.  Stop hating Christians, start loving God, start telling everybody Ron Paul is going to get rid of the intrusive federal government, restore the foundations of the Constitution — all of rural America with come out to vote.  That is what the media is afraid of.

Also, rural people home school their kids — GETTING RID OF THE DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION is a really big bonus.

Hey neocon, sure hope you hop over to the other page, having a wingding debate with jaynie59, and I wish Tom would go back there, and shoot these fools down. It is so hard to get through these progressive idiots.

Tom, I want to thank you for at least popping in on the other “conservative” page yesturday. Still, no one wants to discredit you at all. Also, if I am not mistaken, when you were on Church’s show a few years ago, the day after, I believe I heard Mr. Church say you were from Belton, Tx?? 

And one more thing for Mr. Woods………..GO AGGIES!!!!! GO WRECKING CREW!!!!

Ok, I thought I had heard something about either you or Gutsman, might have mistaken. Thanks for the repsonse. Hope your day goes well, will be posting more often now. Especially after the attacks that I have taken over at that other site you snuck off to yesturday. 

It appears they turned off comments on that article.  What a non-surprise.

Tom you are clearly correct, but as you mention at the very beginning of this article… this whole “conservative” semantics game is a waste of time.  Any rational thinker can see that the Levins and Limbaughs are contradicting themselves… Liberty! Limited Government! Free Markets!…. and Militarism????

I remember you!

You posted for a brief period, on the BIG sites.