An Honorable Handful Oppose Iran Resolution

These Iran resolutions are straight out of Orwell. We have to keep an eye on aggressive activities by Iran in the Western hemisphere. Right.

H.R. 3783
Countering Iran in the Western Hemisphere Act of 2012

States that it is U.S. policy to use a comprehensive strategy to counter Iran’s growing hostile presence in the Western Hemisphere by working together with U.S. allies and partners in the region to deter threats to U.S. interests by Iran, the Iranian Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC), the IRGC’s Qods Force, and Hezbollah.

Expresses the sense of Congress that the Secretary should keep Congress informed about Iran’s hostile actions in the Western Hemisphere.

Voting against:

Amash, Justin (R-MI)
Duncan, John (R-TN)
Jones, Walter (R-NC)
Kucinich, Dennis (D-OH)
Massie, Thomas (R-KY)
Paul, Ron (R-TX)

(Thanks to the Daily Paul.)

Z

5 Republicans, only 1 Democrat. And the Democrats are the party of peace? Only when their guy is not in power.
Jeremiah

Only six members, huh? Depressing but hardly shocking.

It seems a Senate version passed 12/12/12—but by unrecorded voice vote. Sen. Paul has surely entered his objections into the Congressional Record, right?
guest

Tom,

This is referring to an actual threat, called “Taqiyya”, or Civilization Jihad. It’s not that we would have to fear their words from over there, but that radical Islamist front groups have infiltrated the highest levels of our government and are working to subdue us under Shariah law, incrementally:

Taqiyya: A Concept of Deceit that Security Professionals Must Know
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2010/09/22/Taqiyya–A-Concept-of-Deceit-that-Security-Professionals-Must-Know
This is one of those areas that the Neocons were really concerned about in their opposition to a Ron Paul presidency. They believed that he had no clue that this was going on, and his citations of Robert Pape on Middle East issues seemed to confirm that for them.
Could you say a few words about this? Glenn Beck has documented a lot about Taqiyya.
Travis

Wrong, he affirmatively voted for it
Jeremiah

Let me remove tongue from cheek to say I’m far from completely shocked. Rand has been with the Iran regime change program since 2010.
Anonymous

Glenn Beck…Oh, for a minute, I thought it was bull-pucky. But GB, oh, that’s gotta be FOR REAL!
Riiight….
Jeremiah

Look out! There’s a Universal Caliphate™ behind you!

Sorry. I didn’t mean to scare you. I guess one shouldn’t jest about ~~crude propaganda~~ “an actual threat.”

Well, let’s just hope Washington bombs some more Muslim countries soon. Otherwise, we’ll all be sporting burkhas and hennaed beards by next Ramadan.
guest

I’m not suggesting we bomb anyone, but just to be aware of what’s happening with the Muslim Brotherhood front groups in our country and with Hezbollah joining with the drug cartels on our southern border.
guest

Why? Because Glenn beck doesn’t actually back up his claims about the Progressives working with the radical Muslims to cripple the American economy?

What has he gotten wrong?

(And I realize that Glenn is a Neocon – I get that. But he isn’t an imbecile as he is made out to be. That claim just won’t work.

He has OFTEN backed up major claims of his with audio or video.)

Here’s some of Glenn Beck’s documentation, by the way:

Study Guide: Muslim Brotherhood and more on Egypt
http://www.glennbeck.com/2011/02/01/study-guide-muslim-brotherhood-and-more-on-egypt/

Study Guide: TSA, Trumka, and Muslim Brotherhood
http://www.glennbeck.com/2011/02/07/study-guide-tsa-trumka-and-muslim-brotherhood/

And Ron Paul has spoken of how our unconstitutional foreign policy is uniting the radical Islamists, such that they have “what they’ve been looking for for a thousand years” (paraphrase):

War and the Constitution | Ron Paul
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qo4kdGhsbls#t=34m36s
Dan

Even if what you say is not almost entirely propaganda, the solution is the same as it always was; abolish the government. If you are unfamiliar with libertarianism in regards to defense agencies, a good primer is Chaos Theory by Robert Murphy which you can get for free at LVMI.
Jeremy

Please tell me you don’t believe that neocon.
anon

unfortunately, rp republicans won’t admit that islamist groups are infact not only a serious threat, but one that has also immersed themselves in the us. they tend to focus on cia-us gov’t and banksters only, as if it only takes money but not people and violence to carry out their plans. essentially, covering up or remaining silence on such violence.

breitbart is exactly right about this taqiyya. glenn beck leaves out a lot of information – like that al quaeda is infact controlling the syrian rebels and the rest of the arab revolution along with their partners like muslim brotherhood, saudia arabia, terrorist cells in the us/mexican border, etc…

of course, being non-neutral to israel/palestine is also wrong.
anon

It is black/white happening in front of your eyes. most middle eastern leaders calling for unification under islam. islam is not just about their religion, but converting the rest of the world as its main mission, and to be done so under submission. no outcry from rp republicans on morsi, who is by far worse than mubarack in all his 30 yrs of reign.

the facts are already known. it seems you are using that type of humor to sweep morsi and caliphate under the rug. even tom woods has said in some youtube video or interview in the past about the caliphate forming. maybe this is one reason he was not on c4l or paul’s campaign.
Jeremiah

Nonsense. The Muslim world has long been divided into mutually hostile sects, dynasties, tribes, nationalities and ethnicities; even at the height of Islamic power under the Umayyads and early Abassids, the faith was riven by divisions. Muslims, in short, are unable to unite themselves under a common religio-political authority; and they are even further from imposing such an order on the rest of the world. The “Universal Caliphate” is a fabrication, a bogey meant to frighten you into supporting more war and less freedom—and into giving cash to the fear-mongering demagogues in the “jihad hunter” industry.

And if Tom Woods has ever issued a video warning about such a frightening figment, I’d certainly like to see a link.
Anonymous

Fair enuff. I’ll check it out.
guest

I am definitely a Ron Paul person, 100%. And I agree with him and Tom that the fiat money permits our CIA, US government, and central banks, to engage in all of these foreign interventions (which causes blowback to us in the form of terrorist attacks), in violations of our Constitution, and in creating economic crises.

Without the fiat money, we wouldn’t have created our own problems with the Muslim world. And yes, I know that Muslim radicals don’t need a reason to attack us, but they happen to have a reason to do so thanks to both parties interfering in other countries’ affairs, which our Founders opposed.

Nothing justifies killing our citizens, but they do have a legitimate reason for being upset with us – even apart from their Islamic radicalism. We have actually blockaded and starved their citizens, blown them up, etc., and we did so because we weren’t minding our own business.

I believe Taqiyya is a real threat, but I don’t conclude from this that we need to interfere in other countries’ affairs, setting up bases over there and such.
guest

I agree that the solution would be less government (arbitration services are a form of government, too, so Anarchists are a bit inconsistent; but I understand where they’re coming from).
guest

I agree that Muslim radicalism is used to goad the public into supporting more war and less freedom. Absolutely.
Our government has, and continues to, incite other countries in order to manufacture crises toward that end, as well.
And I would agree with you that the solution to actual threats is NOT more government – especially if we’re creating our own problems with the amount we currently have.
And I would say that if we got rid of the central planning of the money supply, that government’s functions would shrink dramatically, and this would make us safer, since we wouldn’t have bases all around the world.
All that being said, Taqiyya is a real threat. The Muslim Brotherhood front groups are in our country and are working with the Progressives to take our freedoms because America is one of their common enemies.
Z

Dude, you can’t be serious. Where have they ‘infiltrated the highest levels of our government’?? I’m sure Al Qaeda and others want to rule over all of us, but how exactly have they gained power in the US? And apart from a few city councilmen in Dearborn, MI, where in the US do any muslims, radical or not, have any power?
http://www.facebook.com/LaCookin Eric Boquet

Thank you,this is true.Most are working undercover,pretenders till it’s time to vote.
Dan Rice

Libertarians define ‘government’ as a territorial monopoly of ultimate decision-making with the ability to tax. Voluntarily marketed arbitration services do not fall under this definition.
guest

I was a Neocon once. And while I believed that a territorial monopoly could be part of a government, I didn’t think it was required.

Maybe I thought that, in practice, a territorial monopoly was necessary in order for a government to be effective, but definitionally such a thing wasn’t thought necessary.

Looks like the Neocons and Libertarians/Anarchists are talking past each other.

To be sure, I now know that a territorial monopoly can only be held by individuals, or by a group of individuals who have a contract with each other, since there’s no such thing as a “public good”. “The Collective” (whatever that means) have no rights over my private property.
guest

Well, you have NASA being repurposed as an outreach to the Muslim world;

You have the government deliberately removing terms such as “radical Muslims” from the books, so that the motive of the Fort Hood shooter, for example, doesn’t have to be linked to the Muslim religion.

You have the White House claiming they didn’t know that the attack in Bengazai was a Muslim terrorist attack, when they clearly knew better; So they were covering up for radical Muslims.

You have the White House claiming that the Muslim Brotherhood is a secular organization.

You have the White House asking the Ground Zero Mosque guy to represent the United States to the Muslim world, an Islamic Cleric who refuses to call Hamas a terrorist organization.
john

You have the United States government bombing the Muslim world back to the stone age.

All the things you mentioned above that the likes of Glenn Beck use to try to scare people are just instances of Obama and his liberal regime paying lip-service to his left wing supporters. Our government’s foreign policy is as anti Muslim and pro Israel as it could be.