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http://www.TomWoods.com Tom Woods

I take your reply to mean this: “Yes, when you put together what I am saying, it is indeed ludicrous.”

Nothing at the Independent Institute suggests that Mises’ books on epistemology were part of a scheme he cooked up with Rockefeller to enslave whites.

http://www.TomWoods.com Tom Woods

You are hijacking all my threads, you for some reason consider this acceptable, and then you compare me to a genocidal Marxist when I complain. Sounds like someone has a narcissism problem.

cassandra

Sir, you are fantasizing a market based transaction between mises and rockefeller, where mises pledged to weaken whites in exchange for “paid position” from rockefeller.

But “paid university position” is not the only way Rockefeller could assist mises. Dr. Woods, you are too hung up on “paid position”, perhaps due to your academic background. Tenure, paid position, grants, faculty meetings – you have to look beyond these.

We have enough evidence that mises and rockefeller were collaborators. Mises is dead, and we may never know how deep this mises-rockefeller nexus was, unless we could Audit him before his death. Private correspondence, conversations, may have been burnt or disposed.

On most issues, I am on your side. hard (sound) money, free markets, decentralization (subsidiarity), traditional family, private property, non-interventionist foreign policy, strong defense.

but where i part with you is libertarianism, where everything is viewed through the prism of ideology and legalism, not interests.

Where white interests, white identity, white culture, and white homelands are mocked and ravaged.

http://www.TomWoods.com Tom Woods

So you actually believe there was an express agreement between Mises and Rockefeller, and that Mises thought writing books on epistemology was the most efficient way to doom white people (even though he repeatedly stressed the superiority of Western civilization, by the way). See, this is not normal. There is zero evidence of this, and the thesis is preposterous.

cassandra

Sir, the best way to defeat a people is to inject them with suicidal ideas. Suicidal ideas are more powerful than invading armies.

Austro-libertarianism and Marxism are two ends of the same genocidal axis. On paper they appeal harmless and even beneficial, but in reality they are the destroyer western civilization. One is the ideology of individualism, the other is the ideology of totalitarianism. We already know the genocidal history of marxism.

All such ideologies carry the seed of annihilation. democracy, socialism, hedonism, individualism, feminism, humanism, liberalism, marxism, communism annihilated and ravaged 100+ million white people.

white people are in decline and on verge of extinction. fewer than 5 in 100 worldwide births are white. let us learn this one dictum from “gods chosen people”. “what is good for the jews?”

And so we should think – “what is good for white people?” with the help of commonsense, empiricism, reason, instinct, intuition, divine guidance.

not what some theoretician with the help of hostile elite cooks up and feeds white people.

http://www.TomWoods.com Tom Woods

I have tried to point out the obvious absurdity of your wild speculations, to no avail.

cassandra

this libertarian fanaticism is just as toxic as Marxist fanaticism. ideology poisons the mind and heart. it worships the theory, and brushes aside reality and human nature. its priests are mises, hayek, rothbard, and menger. And they have cursed western civilization with this new plague.

please liberate yourself from this ideological prison.

http://www.TomWoods.com Tom Woods

Your fanaticism has you in a prison in which you are proposing with a straight face that secret records may exist documenting an agreement between Rockefeller and Mises to enslave the human race, a task Rockefeller evidently believed would be well accomplished by means of highly technical books on difficult philosophical and economic topics. Physician, heal thyself.

David

You know who else had an ideology based on what (he thought) was good for white people?

Zach

This might be the most ridiculous thread I’ve ever read on the internet. That’s saying a lot. Wow.

Rocafella

i wouldn’t know what a japanese or jewish ideology would be. much too general. my point was that throwing out something because it is an ideology is like throwing out something because it is practical. you’re using the term “ideology” pejoratively. even if the 3 or so ideologies you list are actual – to say that therefore all ideology is problematic or wrong is a fallacious leap. remember, it’s an ideology to say that ideologies are bad. wars, though sold to the masses as both practical and ideological – and everything in between – are actually usually only motivated by the lowest, most animalistic behaviors

yes, i happen to support the constitution.

David

It’s either this one or the other one cassandra took over yesterday

http://www.TomWoods.com Tom Woods

It won’t happen again. He thinks Mises and Rockefeller were in cahoots to enslave the white race. Surely that’s why Mises wrote The Ultimate Foundation of Economic Science.

JackofSpades

Cassandra’s central thesis about Mises was ridiculous for obvious reasons. That being said, I am often very uncomfortable with how libertarianism and race interact given the constraints of the real world as it actually exists at this time (and is likely to exist in the future).

For example, I don’t think it is unreasonable to claim that if one group understands and accepts libertarianism (defined here as understanding what constitutes an acceptable use of force) at a disproportionate rate compared to another group, then the group more oriented in the collectivist/statist tradition will be more likely to control the state and use aggression to control our lives, all else being equal.

Yes, I know and accept that racial categories don’t act and that only individuals act (or receive benefits, pay costs, or whatever else). However, if individuals of a certain race are having more children, and being prompted by various agents (schools, racists/racialists, media) to think in more collectivist terms on a racial basis, while a certain race is having fewer children and more open to philosophy that would (all else being equal), prompt them away from collectivism…the former group will gain more power and control over their fellow man. You can see this happening vis-a-vis religion in Europe. Muslims are having more children, being more trained to think collectively (as compared to say Christians or Atheists like myself), and use the state to achieve it’s aims. The results have been pretty serious, especially in England and France.

I know that ultimately, the state is the problem and if not for the state, these issues would be largely moot. I just don’t like it when Libertarians ignore or try to cover up the fairly obvious point that you can be an anti-racist while acknowledging that white people are less likely to think collectively on a racial front, as compared to other races and that all else being equal, this hurts individual freedom-loving white people (or any freedom loving person for that matter) in promoting their interests, so long as the state exists.

TLDR version: Libertarianism is the most moral political philosophy. It is also the most correct from a consequentialist perspective on economics and law.

But it does make make its champions vulnerable to attack from a collective, given the constraints associated with having a state in play. That collective doesn’t have to derive its cohesion from race, but it often is to a non-trivial degree.

cassandra

please test it on a small city or state before you spread the plague of austro-libertarianism to all white people.
ideologues have killed hundreds of millions during last two centuries. enough.

cassandra

of course you are using the word “white race” pejoratively to demagogue and stigmatize, when I never used the word “race”. I always said “white people”.

you appear to think that fashioning yourself as anti-racist will give you respectability and acceptance among gullible libertarian rank and file, while you look down upon me as a worthless peasant from your ivory tower.

I notice that despite my repeated requests, you still havent answered my questions on whether you live in a non-white majority neighborhood, if your spouse is black or brown, if your kids go to non-white majority schools, while you accuse me of being racialist.

cassandra

i explained to you the jewish and japanese “ideology”, but you are suffering from libertarian plague.

You support the constitution despite the fact that Jefferson, Washington, Madison were slave owners, white supremacists?

cassandra

survival comes first. if you dont survive nothing else matters. its has little to do with State, but a lot to do with interests. this article will help you understand.
http://www.kevinmacdonald.net/WestSurvive.htm

David

How did he use the term “white race” pejoratively?