‘I Support Cain’ Means ‘The Country’s Fine Just As It Is’

A Suffolk University poll of Florida Republicans finds 25% in support of Mitt Romney and 24% supporting Herman Cain. In other words, these voters believe the country is about 4 percent off track but basically all right. For all their talk about how bad Obama is, apparently things aren’t that bad if they want to replace him with a safe establishment man like Romney or Cain (former head of the Kansas City Federal Reserve).

Under Romney it’s obvious nothing will change. Anyone can see that.

Under Cain it’s only slightly less obvious. His big proposal is a revenue-neutral tax shifting. He has no plans to cut anything (and please, spare me the he’ll-cut-the-rate-of-growth-of-spending stuff). He supported Romney in 2008. He supported TARP — he had no idea it would be used to “pick winners and losers”! — which means on the key economic issue of our time, which Reagan budget director David Stockman calls “the single greatest economic-policy abomination since the 1930s, or perhaps ever,” Cain chose the Establishment over the people. He lectured “free-market purists” for opposing it.

You can imagine how much “change” we can expect from a guy like that — the whole establishment lines up on one side (the New York Times, the Washington Post, the cable news commentators, John McCain, Barack Obama) and the American people on the other, and Cain goes with the establishment. But he’ll be a big maverick next time that happens, right? Sure.

Not to mention he thought there was nothing wrong with the economy on September 1, 2008. How can he fix something he couldn’t perceive — and actually ridiculed other people for pointing out? How is this in any way defensible?

He is such a lightweight on the economy that he calls his economic adviser onto the stage to answer even simple questions.

His foreign policy is indistinguishable from Hillary Clinton’s. Both subscribe to the entirely conventional bipartisan foreign-policy consensus, which has yielded Americans one budget-busting boondoggle after another. (Turns out the people in Washington the Tea Party rails against do not suddenly become infallible and super-effective when they turn to foreign policy — though why this should be surprising or unexpected I have never been able to understand.)

So Florida voters are telling us this: we don’t want a truth-teller who in 2001 explained precisely what was happening to the economy. We don’t want any deviation from the trillion-dollar bipartisan foreign policy (even though we don’t support any other bipartisan program). We want someone totally clueless who will more or less keep things the way they are and not lay out any serious plan for cutting spending or the deficit.

Well, that’s just super.

http://twitter.com/chrisrossini ChrisRossini

Unfortunately, I get the sense that many Republicans still hold out that the government can be ‘fixed’.
They just need to put someone with some ‘business experience,’ who ‘knows how to run things’; unlike the famous community organizer.Sadly, they do not understand that business and government are fundamentally different. So, once again, if Ron Paul doesn’t pull this off somehow, Americans about about to get snowed once again.
http://www.facebook.com/people/Robert-Roddis/707435410 Robert Roddis

I don’t want everyone to get too depressed, but I get the sense that Republican primary voters don’t even know that they are supposed to be against government spending. Just like Democrat voters don’t know they are supposed to be for civil liberties. So it’s like explaining Rothbard to your poodle (who has a much longer attention span).
http://www.facebook.com/people/Robert-Roddis/707435410 Robert Roddis

I don’t want everyone to get too depressed, but I get the sense that Republican primary voters don’t even know that they are supposed to be against government spending. Just like Democrat voters don’t know they are supposed to be for civil liberties. So it’s like explaining Rothbard to your poodle (who has a much longer attention span).
TC

Sadly no things are Not bad enough for real change. I am afraid that our modern Roman Empire will have to crash and burn before eyes are opened wide, and of course by then it will be too late. I see it as this fight for small government and staying in the confines of the Constitution is decades too late. By allowing the Senate and Congress politicians to set up life time thrones, we opened the Pandora’s box of corruption, goodies for votes and half the country hooked on living off of other peoples money. So my question is…without the majority of the people wanting to turn the clock back even if Ron Paul was elected as President by lets say a narrow margin, would he actually be able to make the changes necessary without having a majority of like minded Representatives in the House & Senate to move that agenda forward?
TC

Sadly no things are Not bad enough for real change. I am afraid that our modern Roman Empire will have to crash and burn before eyes are opened wide, and of course by then it will be too late. I see it as this fight for small government and staying in the confines of the Constitution is decades too late. By allowing the Senate and Congress politicians to set up life time thrones, we opened the Pandora’s box of corruption, goodies for votes and half the country hooked on living off of other peoples money. So my question is…without the majority of the people wanting to turn the clock back even if Ron Paul was elected as President by lets say a narrow margin, would he actually be able to make the changes necessary without having a majority of like minded Representatives in the House & Senate to move that agenda forward?
Toe

And if America thinks it’s as simple as Robert just put it … I now understand why we’re in the shape we’re in. Because, obviously, there are no Democrats in D.C. that have a “government spending problem” (they’ve been doing fine for years) … and all of us Republican primary voters like to keep the “oppressed” in their place and hate civil liberties. It’s this kind of simplification that makes for great “tv news show politics” and horrible policy!
http://twitter.com/parsoned parsoned

The messenger is more of a problem than the message. If it were Rand running rather than Ron, there would be a greater chance for the message to succeed.
http://pulse.yahoo.com/_XXUI2U5IPS7IABBMSM4I27BYDA chris

Sad but true.

With Florida, folks obviously believe that politicians lie to them, then seconds later they listen to Romney and Cain and believe these two politicians are telling the truth.

Two beliefs that cannot both be true at the same time.
http://pulse.yahoo.com/_XXUI2U5IPS7IABBMSM4I27BYDA chris

The government CAN be “fixed”… as in neitered. Made so it cannot reproduce, grow, mulitply, expand, etc.
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1239336439 Wolf Onnie

I watch as the polls up and down for different candidates thinking to myself what in the heck is wrong with these people don’t they know anything about the Constitution? If people would get away from party politics and would stick with the Constitution and Bill of Rights we would not have a lawless Congress & POTUS…..lawless Fed….lawless EPA….lawless…DOE ect. I could go on for hours..I guess the only way they will wake up is when there family starts being killed. Because Americans did not uphold their duty… The Constitution…..
http://pulse.yahoo.com/_XXUI2U5IPS7IABBMSM4I27BYDA chris

Ron’s problem is that he states, openly, that he would cut aid to Israel. Never mind that it underminds that country’s sovereignty and economy. Never mind that Benjamin Netanyaho believes the same as Ron Paul. Never mind that US Aid angers the average Israeli citizen. Simply showing FAIRNESS towards Israel, and not total, unwavering support at the expense of the taxpayer, is enough to cost him popular support at least, and have him labled as an anti-Semite at worst.
http://pulse.yahoo.com/_XXUI2U5IPS7IABBMSM4I27BYDA chris

Cain will crash and burn. Then it will be the Paulbots vs. the Romneybots. And we Paulbots love our guy more than the Romneybots love theirs.
http://www.facebook.com/rliljr Rob Lilja

Tom, I would agree with you about the Florida GOP, the last Chairmen is under investigation for some backroom dealings. The current leadership supposedly set the fee for voting in the straw poll at $125, to purposely keep Ron Paul supporters from voting. They seem to put forth the attitude here that we should just vote the candidate that they tell us and that should be good enough.
As a resident of Florida and a self proclaimed Ron Paul supporter (I dropped the republican a few months ago). I only keep my republican voter registration so I can vote in the primaries. But when the general election comes around I have learn the only way I can make a difference is to stop voting for the lesser of 2 evils and vote for the candidate that best represents my interest. Voting for the lesser of 2 evils gives that party the belief that their agenda is supported, by the constituency, which is more than likely not the case.
http://www.facebook.com/MMYoung57 Mark M. Young

Not to try and put any words in Robert’s mouth, but I’m not sure that’s what he is saying. I *think* what he is saying is that both ideologies say one thing but do the opposite.

The problem, as I see it anyway, is that most Americans have bought into the BS and actually believe that one party or the other will make a difference when they are voted into office. The reality is that nothing could be further from the truth. Even the High Priest of Conservatism Ronald Regan did just the opposite of what he said. He talked about smaller government, but the size of government increased significantly during his reign. Obama talked about “hope and change” and “transparency” but the reality is that nothing has changed. The wars continue and increase in scope and cost, the debt continues to climb and government gets less and less transparent.

Second verse same as the first.
http://www.facebook.com/MMYoung57 Mark M. Young

To be fair, Ron Paul states he would cut ALL foreign aid not just aid to Israel.
http://twitter.com/jamesbrett12 Jimmy B

America will come good again, I’m sure. Manufacturing is returning from China at an unprecedented rate.

http://www.liquid-roofing.com
http://www.facebook.com/people/Robert-Roddis/707435410 Robert Roddis

Rothbard biography Justin Raimondo explains the New Cain-sianism:
http://original.antiwar.com/justin/2011/11/01/herman-cain-nein-nein-nein/
Michele

I disagree with Tom Woods assessment of why people are getting on board with Cain. Most people see him as not one of the political inner circle and they are grasping at anyone that is not your typical polished polititian. Cain is offering a simple solution 999. He is abiding the K.I.S.S principal and its working. Unfortunatly the simple plan is not the best but it concrete enough for the simple minded voters to grasp onto.
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1068420267 Kerri Marable Rehmeyer

You can imagine how much “change” we can expect from a guy like that — the whole establishment lines up on one side (the New York Times, the Washington Post,
the cable news commentators, John McCain, Barack Obama) and the
American people on the other, and Cain goes with the establishment. But
he’ll be a big maverick next time that happens, right? Sure.
David

This position probably costs him some support, but it isn’t the end-all-be-all some make it out to be. Most Republicansl don’t like his general foreign policy and some think Ron is not socially conservative enough.
http://www.facebook.com/people/Robert-Roddis/707435410 Robert Roddis

Also, if you are keeping a count of MSM mentions of a) 999 vs b) the ABCT and that it predicted the housing boom and bust and for which Hayek won the Nobel Prize and which is advocated by Ron Paul……

I think the count would be 57,235 to zero. But the MSM isn’t biased.
http://www.facebook.com/people/Robert-Roddis/707435410 Robert Roddis

And keep in mind that if you watch O’Reilly and his brilliant aid, Jesse Watters, you will understand that Ron Paul’s monetary ideas are just nuts and have no basis in the constitution or economics (see the following segment which consists of two parts):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrKD6MGHSmM&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vz4zQQHyYOU

There’s no spin here, right?
http://www.facebook.com/people/Donna-McClure-II/100000602602433 Donna McClure II

hmmm, article is misleading and ignores the plan to shift government control back to the people by abolishing the current tax code and even balance the budget in one year. Do your homework folks and do your own math. Truth is very hard to find these days.
Shark Man

From his faulty recession predictions in 2008, to his support of TARP to his resistance to a Federal Reserve audit, GOP presidential candidate Herman Cain is unqualified to shepherd America to honest economic recovery.
http://www.facebook.com/people/Zebram-Zee/100002539017006 Zebram Zee

My question is, why in the world would he need to yield to his ‘economic advisor’? The guy was head of a Federal Reserve branch, shouldn’t he be able to answer virtually any economic question posed to him?
Chris5191973

Tom,

we need this message to go to a national audience.
I’d like to suggest you contact media personalities like Stossel or Napolitano, John Stewart and even Rachel Maddow (who recently aknowledged Ron Paul on Bill Maher’s show).
Get on national television and expose these guys.
P_drummer3

This article is 100% dead on, this is exactly how I’ve felt for years and i’m only 26.
Christopher

I’m perplexed. Cain has repeatedly said that his 9-9-9 plan would be “revenue neutral”; thus, it would hypothetically produce no substantive increase or decrease in government funds. (Of course, even this is suspect, given that he seems to have no pretensions of being an economist. How the heck would he know how much revenue it would bring in?) As for balancing the budget in one year, has Cain even said this? If he made that claim, there are serious reasons to be skeptical. I’ve watched multiple interviews and debates in which he was asked to name specific programs or regulations that he would cut, and he offered no specifics in response. He once went so far as to blame his interviewer, saying that nitpicking of that sort (as in, asking for an actual plan or promise) was the reason that nothing “got done” in Washington. Do you seriously think that this guy is the kind of truthteller that can restore the republic? I don’t.

Check out the interview starting at 2:40 of this video. Where’s the “math”? Where’s the “truth”?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JPuKLudRnco
Anonymous

Great job Tom laying down the argument against the establishment candidate Herman Cain. If only conservatives and TEA Parties would start listening this this message.
Laura

I think I’m getting to the point I just want to LEAVE this country. I’m so sick of the brainwashed, half-dead, zombies walking this world. They have some “vague” idea that there is something wrong with our economy, but they are friggin’ clueless as to what has caused it. Instead, tonight my husband & I go to a business dinner party, and I swear some are so clueless I felt like popping my cork. One was supportive of Herman Cain, for gosh sakes! Herman Cain? Although they were disappointed that he’s not as “popular” right now, they liked the idea of the flat tax?? I said, “How about NO TAX?” They were speechless, and finally I got around to saying, “Did you know that Herman Cain was FOR the Banking Bailout??!!” They then shut up. I couldn’t believe it….and this guy was an intelligent engineer.

That’s the problem we are up against. Most of the bright men & women are SO BUSY working 10 hour days that they don’t have the time to really research what the heck is going on in this country. THIS is what the EVIL WORLD LOUSY ELITES are counting on. Heck, they’d be HAPPY as you know what if all the Baby Boomers had to continue working….heck, ANYTHING as long as they wouldn’t have time to DISCOVER THE TRUTH.

I’m so sick of everything tonight. I’M SORRY. I really am, but sometimes I get so discouraged. It seems MEGAN whatever her Fox News name is has put out an “announcement” today with her interview of Ron Paul. RP has said he would not be happy with 3rd place, and THAT IS EXACTLY what she said he was in. It’s as if they were going to rig it so.

I hope not. I hope we have a MASSIVE NUMBER of people integrating with the local counties in Iowa to ensure that there will be no shenanigans!!!!! I hope so.

We MUST make sure that the I.T. TECHNICIANS for the counties are nothing unusal, and nobody has been hired “recently” to “service” those electronic machines. WE MUST DO THIS NO MATTER WHAT.

Please, please, can someone make sure that the Des Moines & all heavily populated electronic voting booths are verified 100% legit? Please?
http://twitter.com/AnonymousHench Bruno Tata

Except for the “national defense/constant wars” issues, I suspect many Cain/Romney voters would give Ron Paul a shot. But after 66 years now of our self-appointed role as “the world’s policeman” being a source of (misguided) pride in the party, you are not going to change that overnight.

For this reason, Paul and his acolytes’ attitude of “brash bold shocking pronouncements” on that topic is unwise if he has any real ambition to be President, rather than simply using the campaign to get his ideas out..   Instead of framing it in the worst possible way ( “we’re terrible, we are occupiers, we kill civilians”, “we are an empire”, “Bush lied”) it could have been handled much more tactfully. Alternate ways to get most of that message across might include:

“Why should we pay to defend Europe/Japan/Saudi Arabia?”

“Why were we taxing you to pay to rebuild Iraq? Why aren’t they at least paying us back for this and their liberty from a dictator in oil? Is it our problem anyway in the first place?   One of the best ways to turn a warlike aggressive nation into pacifists for the next century or so is to invade and leave their nation in ruins and hang their leaders. Only when they’ve undergone a lengthy period of attitude change do you then help them rebuild (Germany, Japan).   Or not at all (Mahdist Sudan, others). The next dictator talking big may think twice, lest his last photo be of him strung up somewhere or being drug through the streets.    Rebuilding a defeated nation immediately for free only lets the populace (dictators don’t do it alone) feel they don’t have that much to lose if they mess with us later. And nations returned to a stone-age economy tend to lack the money to buy WOMD and other weaponry to cause problems.

“Why are we engaging in expensive attritional warfare in Afghanistan, a nation that has been in constant tribal war since before western nations ever set foot in it?   Is the Taliban a threat to us anything proportional to the cost?   What do terrorists actually do at “training camps” anyway besides make silly looking propaganda videos?

“We are broke and going deeper into debt. Which do you want? A massive military and social programs or to avoid hyperinflation? Pick one because they are mutually exclusive”   Then expound on America’s prosperity during periods where we had a tiny army and navy. (and no welfare state). Emphasize the economic benefits that come from not having wasted resources of a large standing military.   Not just how “bad” we are to have it.

“Instead of “Bush lied to get us to attack Iraq”, why not sell it as “Bush erred due to bad intelligence and many congress approved the action, as did some of our allies, so he wasn’t alone in that. Saddam claimed to be preparing WOMD but was faking it thinking we’d never attack. It was “MISGUIDED”, not evil.

In college I knew a guy who was friendly but would walk up to an attractive girl and say something stupid like “damn you’re tall” as an approach. He never could figure out that perhaps shocking the young lady with something she might be sensitive about wasn’t the best way to win her over.

So, if you want to ask some Republican voters to the dance, you’re going to have to learn to not hit them with the truth so hard right up front.   Because what you’re really saying is “you were fools to follow those other guys, so follow us, you fools”.   Not everyone has great egos and can admit that. So instead they label you a kook and vote for the guy promising 1% change who makes them feel proud to be Americans.
sirbourbon

I understand your frustration, believe me I do, but the presidency is may still be beyond the grasp of constitutionalists even this go round. I will still support the good doctor regardless of my somewhat less than 100% enthusiastic outlook for changes sufficient GOP party minds between now and the early primaries.

As marveleous as Dr.Paul is and has been in these last two runs as a Republican candidate the way back to the Constittution will come about through the House, followed by the senate and then one day we will have a man in the White House that will obey the Constitution and nominate only constitutionalist Supreme Court Judges.

The key is the House but the states can stir up quit a bit of resistance to federal tyranny via the 10th amendment and grow the constitutionalist movement.

Why GOP rank and file opt for the Chauncey Gardniers of the political establishment is attributable to the rank and file reading mostly the typical GOP establishment books. The tractor beam that captivates the minds of the party loyalist isn’t going to be easily broken. But it must be done and Tom Woods’ books will help to do that.

Doctor Paul dedicated all those years in congress talking outside his comfort zone which was all around him and still remains that way but he never gave up. We must do likewise.
Dmbublit

I’m 25 and catching on too! Both parties have no allegiance to the American people other than to lie, cheat, and steal to collect the vote! RON PAUL!
Dmbublit

have u been door knocking for Ron Paul? or are you sitting on the sidelines waiting for me to? I didnt even know Ron Paul ran in 2008, now I have done nothing but study policies, history, and elect-ability, I do not like wasting my time, so help us! God knows the GOP wont until he wins states then they have no choice! They need to defeat Obama so they will get behind Paul hoping to influence him, too bad they wont be able to much!!!! haha
Dmbublit

he has been on stossel, here

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2xAGPpgK534
http://www.TomWoods.com Tom Woods

Chris, if it were that easy I would have done it long ago. They have to contact you.
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=730740747 Chuck Reichmuth

Well, I live in Daytona and voting for Ron Paul!!
http://pulse.yahoo.com/_FRKHHLXVH66YAA4YMWDA2ACZ6U Joseph

I am pretty sure that Tom has an agent and/or PR management that spends his hours and days trying to get Tom on whatever venue that he can. But, you must realize that news today is entirely entertainment-based (just like music, movies, cartoons, magazines, etc). A lot of television entertainers on cable news channels like to say that, “all you have to do is call and we’ll have you on”, or something to that effect. The real fact is is that is just their character or persona that they act out for the audience, it isn’t real life. In real life, all of these characters/actors are there to sell a brand, and all of their guests are chosen to increase the popularity of that brand.

It’s kind of like if there were a Coca~Cola channel and Pepsi is the alternative. Obviously, it would not make sense to bring a Pepsi rep onto the Coca~Cola channel, rather they will instead have a few Kool-Aid guys, maybe somebody from Faygo or Shasta, or maybe somebody from Yoo-hoo. They do this to give the impression that there are choices, to give the impression that the political theatre is actually reality. If they bring on the Pepsi guy, it just threatens their own brand.
The LibertyBelle

I hear ya, Laura, and bemoan the same issues daily. Gets depressing knowing I am surrounded by foonts everywhere I go. I get hope from this web site along with The Daily Paul and The Daily Bell.

America for me, now transcends place, it is an idea of Liberty lives in my heart and could blossom anywhere on the planet where the soil is rich and the man is far away…so Argentina looks better every day. This coming from D.A.R., who’s ancestors arrived in America 1635.

Yes…Argentina…
http://www.facebook.com/texasuncensored DS Holter

This article is right on. While some of the media has given way, and is giving Ron Paul more time, fair coverage, the most guilty for propping up the candidate of the month are the old networks not on cable. I would like to see pressure put on ABC, CBS, and NBC, as it was done with Fox and CNN. Right down to the local levels of media affiliated with these old networks, so far my daily emails have gotten only slight results.
Until the campaign finds a way to open that door wide, the Florida types will remian the brainwashed.
Anonymous

I live in the Florida Panhandle, and it’s about as statist as anywhere I’ve lived, maybe more so. The governor of Florida cut state jobs (prisons, state parks, etc) over the past year and so put many people out of “work.” Not having a basic grasp of economics these people have no idea how tax-funded “jobs” steal from the productive sector in the first place. They see only that they went to work, received a check, and were serving as something “productive” and “necessary” for “society” with no understanding of how destructive this is for the overall economy. In addition, it has been my experience that, incredibly, many don’t even see themselves as working for the government! They see “the government” as the Federal government, not the state, county or city?!

So, many of these Floridians are quite possibly reacting to the fact their “jobs” were cut by a governor who sounded a bit like RP in his stance of cutting government jobs. It seems as well they close their ears when it comes to any rational explanation of how a free-market economy works…the product of state-run public “education,” no doubt, and we all know how teachers love government.
Anonymous

Laura -

You wrote:

“I think I’m getting to the point I just want to LEAVE this country.”

I sympathize with what you say Laura, but where would you go?
You’re welcome in Holland of course, but we’ve got pretty much the same nomenklatura running the show over here, supposedly on our behalf, i.e. “the common good”: left-wing and right-wing exponents of the managerial state. There’s no freedom loving, free market party whatsoever and meanwhile we’ve been swamped with America’s most prominent post-war export products (besides Hollywood nihilism), mind numbing political correctness and establishment progressivism.

I guess the best thing both of us can do, is to stay put, stand our ground and educate the ones around us – in ever wider circles – about ideas that are still the only true basis for civilization: freedom and the (natural) right to property.

Kind regs from Amsterdam,
Richard
P_drummer3

Amen to that
SRG

Laura

Agreed. 100%.

Most people seem to have NO CLUE when it comes to the reason a Constitutional Republic was adopted and the need to follow the written law if you want ANY law. It’s just amazing how seemingly intelligent people, such as the engineer you mentioned, can be so far off base. Herman Cain – what a joke!

Public education, however, doesn’t promote true intelligence and, in fact, discourages it. Conformity, memorization and rote recitation are encouraged because they are easily tested and can be used to produce non-thinking, liberal, zombie-consumers. For more on this very interesting topic, look up “John Taylor Gatto.”

Further, it’s easy to mistake verbal ability for true intelligence. Many politicians, for example, are glib but do not display true wisdom and maturity. Contrariwise, many people who have it all figured out, opt to withdraw, keep quiet and do their own thing under the radar since they quickly realize “You can’t fight City Hall.”

I’ve looked at moving to countries south of the border with the idea that their governments are so inept, the people are largely left alone. I have also looked at Singapore, following Jim Rogers lead. In the end, though, my travels abroad have led me to conclude that people are basically the same everywhere and I would just be swapping one set of problems for a different set.

I’ve decided to mostly keep my mouth shut in public. I get my intellectual stimulation from people on the web such as Tom Woods, Dr. Paul and the few other truly intelligent people who are willing to duke it out with City Hall and stick their necks out for the rest of us. (FWIW, I give money to people such as Ron Paul…)

Dinner parties are not high on my list of intellectually stimulating activities…
P_drummer3

Amen to that, this is a war over ideas.
http://twitter.com/HeatForce Jay Brown

Herman isn’t going to cut it as the anti-establishment candidate. He might not be a ‘typical politician’, but he is very much the status quo.
http://twitter.com/HeatForce Jay Brown

Herman isn’t going to cut it as the anti-establishment candidate. He might not be a ‘typical politician’, but he is very much the status quo.
Anonymous

I’m ashamed my fellow Floridians are so thoughtless. Hope that changes before January 31st. I will vote for Ron Paul and several of my friends will too.
Anonymous

I’m ashamed my fellow Floridians are so thoughtless. Hope that changes before January 31st. I will vote for Ron Paul and several of my friends will too.
Anonymous

Donna -

What you basically say by supporting “Cainsianism” is this: leave the current system intact, which means a de facto defence of financial FEDishism, state sponsored corporatism and elitist progressivism.

Meanwhile, some tax reshuffling and last-minute budget acrobatics must do the trick and then you proceed to produce the quite astonishing statement about us, the people, being “in control of government” by means of this FEDist proxy?

Well, that’s ehm.. rich!

Kind regs from Amsterdam,
Richard