Left-Wing AlterNet Didn’t Like Ron Paul’s Farewell Speech

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I really liked this one:

Thought Controllers Call Ron Paul “Extreme”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9FFhSr1A1do

S.Christ.

I couldn’t have written a more accurate caricature of the baseless, counterfactual drivel that parades as “criticism” of Dr. Paul than that article. It almost sounds like satire written by a Ron Paul supporter.

Anonymous

I had to stop on the second page when they talked about a rush to free trade. Good Lord.

S.Christ.

I found this to be one of the best contradiction (and there are plenty):

” the South’s agrarian oligarchs and the North’s industrial oligarchs wanted the federal government to stay out of their affairs – and they largely succeeded by wielding immense political power until the 20th Century.”

Interesting that these men could wield immense political power, so much so to become “oligarchs” and yet be in the position of wanting the “government to stay out of their affairs.”

jaffi411

I remember a few years ago I looked at the names of all of the signers of the constitution and wondered what these guys had to say about pure democracy, and wouldn’t you know it almost every single one of them had nothing but bad things to say about democracy. Most of the worries expressed were the exact same that this Alternet article hints that democracy is the cure for. I’m guessing that the writer of this Alternet article wasn’t aware of that, and surely they’ve never read Hoppe.

JP

This is the website that Jesse Ventura quotes a lot in his book yet for some reason a lot of libertarians like Jesse.

JP

Jesse Ventura is a joke as is alternet.

http://www.facebook.com/deancameron Dean Chrysler Cameron

I find these types of articles so completely and utterly depressing. The comments below the piece, where people are calling for the murder of the rich, are actually frightening. Once again, if anyone on the “right” wrote something about using a guillotine on one of their idols, they would go batshit crazy indignant and pass a law.

chris

“Before then, everything was working just fine, in Paul’s view. But the reality was anything but wonderful for the vast majority of Americans. A century ago, women were denied the vote by law and many non-white males were denied the vote in practice. Uppity blacks were frequently lynched.” … also, a century ago polio, meningitis, and pneumonia were rampant and they also had the Titanic and Dr. Paul would take us all back to that.

David

Yes, big northern industrialists just hated tariffs, subsidies, competition-stifling policies, the Fed, and other such benefits from the Feds in those days

David

Exactly what I thought. It sounds almost exactly like what a parody of left wing thought by a libertarian would sound like

Montana Kruse

Holy cow. That is one of the most misinformed, idiotic, brainwashed attempt at journalism I have ever had the misfortune of reading. Just when I think we might be making progress something like this shows up. What utter garbage.

Montana Kruse

Not everything on AlterNet is complete garbage. Some of their articles concerning civil liberties, foreign policy, Isreal, the drug war hold some merit. With that being said, the article on Ron Paul is one of the most pathetic and ill-informed pieces of sh*t I have ever read.

Gil

Who ever argued for pure democracy? That’s a strawman argument used by Libertarians to protest real-world democracy.

JoshArizona

A ridiculously large collection of strawmen.

Frank M

There’s also this one, in which Tom Woods took the same Robert Parry to school on Madison and the Constitution after an earlier hit-piece attempt on Ron Paul by Parry.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DbRhPzj_snY

Rob Nabakowski

Exactly. Jesse, while spot on in some instances is clearly a loon. As for Alternet, it is comprised of the dumbest of the dumb of lefty weirdos.

Anonymous

Parry keeps going to Rockefeller and Morgan to point out the evils of the laissez-faire, and why we needed “progressivism”.

The fact that the biggest champions of “progressivism” were Rockefeller and Morgan is somehow lost on him.

And he says Dr. Paul engages in “anti-history”. Riiiight.

Anonymous

I never said that anybody did. However, I did say that the article hinted toward support for democracy in the cases that it poses (which it does), and in fact juxtaposed oligarchy and democracy, concluding that Paul supports oligarchy (in contrast to democracy). There is also the fact that some things don’t need to be stated outright: it’s obviously true that democracy is a central tenet of modern American liberalism, I can safely assume that this writer is of this ilk.

That is neither here nor there, because the central point of my comment was to note that most of the people who signed the Constitution had a great disdain for democracy, which is a factual statement. There exists no straw man unless you count the numerous examples found within the article, as well as a few ad hominems also contained therein.

Pure democracy, “real-world democracy”, or just plain democracy; whatever you want to call it, it’s still tyrranical and entirely anti-minority (in fact, anti-minorityism is its entire basis).

By the way, it’s libertarian, not “Libertarian”. Well, that is unless you specifically meant to talk about a political party rather than the political philosophy. Though, I don’t know why you would do that considering the context.

Anonymous

I should add that the term “pure democracy” is simply another term for direct democracy. However, most of the framers of the Constitution referred to it in the former sense, as did most philosophers of the time. This explains why I used it in that context, and is also probably why Paul used it in that sense.

Adam Mason

Establishment bootlickers warn about Ron Paul taking us back to the 19th century in terms of human rights.

Ignores that establishment literally wants to throw people in prison forever with no trial and do away with Magna Carta from the 1200s.

This is just a sick joke.